Moderated by Jamie and Gray (actually, Gray because he knew all the right questions to ask.)
2011-08-15 1:17 am GrayJones Massive Lee Thomson script archive also has animation scripts:
http://t.co/4Or1bQD #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:20 am GrayJones This wk's TV Writer Podcast w/ Parks & Rec's Dan Goor is a must
watch! Chock full of tips, behind scenes. http://t.co/c9Yhz3N #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:22 am Jamie_LD RT @GrayJones: Massive Lee Thomson script archive has animation
scripts: http://t.co/LjviOw0 #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:24 am SarahAlexis4 RT @GrayJones: This wk's TV Writer Podcast w/ Parks & Rec's Dan
Goor is a must watch! Chock full of tips, behind scenes.
http://t.co/c9Yhz3N #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:25 am sdarancette Hi all! Am earlyn #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:25 am GrayJones Honored- animation show creator/showrunner @DiasDave joined
Twitter just for #tvwriterchat !
2011-08-15 1:26 am GrayJones Hey Steven! Welcome! #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:26 am Bettybgoodtoday RT @elizabethkarr: RT @Jamie_LD: 30 minutes to #tvwriterchat We
are talking about animation with our guests this week. #scriptchat
peeps stop by. #scriptchat
2011-08-15 1:26 am Jamie_LD @sdarancette Thanks for chatting with us! #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:27 am sdarancette Hey, I am using tweetchat for the first time so bear with men #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:27 am sdarancette Hi @diasdave!n #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:27 am GrayJones @DiasDave is a Twitter newbie, so go easy on him! ;-) #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:27 am sdarancette @Jamie_LD @sdarancette my pleasuren #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:28 am GCGeek @Jamie_LD @sdarancette Really looking forward to it, Jamie and
Steven! And Dave! @diasdave #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:28 am DiasDave Very newbie. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:28 am SarahAlexis4 Hi everybody! #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:28 am GrayJones Welcome to @DiasDave, right on time! #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:28 am authorViviAnna RT @GrayJones: Honored- animation show creator/showrunner
@DiasDave joined Twitter just for #tvwriterchat !
2011-08-15 1:29 am sdarancette I have my adult beverage at the ready!n #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:29 am GreyGaia Hi @sdarancette Greetings to you and Happy Sunday :) #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:29 am DiasDave Hi everyone. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:29 am mr_kiyongkim hi @sdarancette and @DiasDave. did you guys always write
animation or did you start in live action? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:29 am GrayJones 1st question: how does an animation script start? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:29 am ScriptScribbler of course you do! RT @sdarancette: I have my adult beverage at the
ready! #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:30 am sdarancette @ScriptScribbler Yup!n #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:30 am authorViviAnna I'm here, but sleepy. Was at a con all weekend. Cool moment, being
on a panel with @RobertJSawyer of FlashFoward fame #
TVWriterchat
2011-08-15 1:31 am GrayJones Dave, can you tell the Nelvana story? (i.e. York leading to work) #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:31 am DiasDave My professional career started in animation. I worked as an asst
Picture Editor at Nelvana, and segued into animation writing. #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:31 am sdarancette @mr_kiyongkim I studied and wrote film scripts, wanted to produce
movies and made a couple of indie films firstn #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:32 am DiasDave My time at York University was for a BFA in Film Production. Wanted
to get a paying job, so I specialized in editing. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:32 am DiasDave Got a job at Nelvana in editing, worked in post on a lot of cartoons.
Saw how they were written. Wanted in on the action! #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:33 am GrayJones @DiasDave and you did a school documentary on Nelvana, right?
Clever way to break in... ;-) #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:33 am holahavito What was your first career job? Pay & location? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:34 am sdarancette strange circumstances lead me to an assist. job at WB TV Animation.
learned to write from editing and coordinating scriptsn #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:35 am GrayJones If someone wanted to break into animation writing, what are some
good scripts to study? Any other resources, programs? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:35 am DiasDave Exposure to behind-the-scenes in animation seems to draw in people
to writing them. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:36 am GrayJones I understand that prime time animation (Simpsons, Family Guy) is
written very differently than children's animation. True? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:36 am sdarancette @GrayJones I didn't have any examples of scripts other than what
was in front of me at my work at WB. Learned from them.n #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:36 am authorViviAnna Q: do you write an animated script the same way you'd write any
other script? is there different formatting, structure? #TVwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:37 am sdarancette @GrayJones PrimeTime scripts are formulated like live-action
sitcoms however they still require the detail of a cartoon #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:38 am authorViviAnna be warned my peeps, TVwriterchat is going on and I will be tweeting
incessantly about well, TV writing :-)
2011-08-15 1:38 am DiasDave More description is needed. Not much more though. Nobody likes
reading reams of prose. Animation needs more actions described #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:38 am Jamie_LD @DiasDave How is the action written differently for animation? #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:39 am DiasDave Less dialogue too. Or rather, shorter dialogue sections. Very few big
long speeches #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:39 am GrayJones <commercial break> why not take a moment and follow our two
guests on Twitter? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:39 am sdarancette So a FAMILY GUY will be "written" in a writers room, like any other
sitcom, however most animation scripts are notn #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:39 am Jamie_LD Done. RT @GrayJones: <commercial break> why not take a moment
and follow our two guests on Twitter? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:39 am DiasDave Actions descriptions must be brief, but animation scripts require more
actions described succinctly. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:40 am TVWriterChat Done. RT @GrayJones: <commercial break> why not take a moment
and follow our two guests on Twitter? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:40 am GrayJones Can you guys please talk about the open pitches in animation? #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:40 am ScriptScribbler Are there any big differences between the Canadian and US markets
for animation?n #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:41 am sdarancette @GrayJones Open pitches? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:41 am DiasDave Series pitches to companies or networks? Or pitching for epsiode
slots on a show in production? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:41 am GrayJones By open pitches, I mean pitching episode ideas -- i.e. how you can do
it "off the street" as a freelancer. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:41 am sdarancette @ScriptScribbler I think the Canadian market is as big or bigger than
US right now #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:42 am GrayJones A LOT of animation shows originate here in Toronto. Also Sheridan
College here supplies many animators to Disney/Pixar. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:43 am DiasDave To pitch, you need a spec script. Either an animated spec, or a sitcom
spec (if the show you're pitching for is a comedy). #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:43 am Jamie_LD Do they take US writers?RT @sdarancette: @ScriptScribbler I think
the Canadian market is as big or bigger than US right now #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:43 am sdarancette @GrayJones anything in this business, it helps to already have some
experience with selling stuff. And knowing who to contact #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:44 am DiasDave You can find animation samples on the internet. The hard part is
finding scripts for young kids shows. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:44 am GrayJones So once you're a known writer, how does the pitching work (eps for
existing series)? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:44 am Jamie_LD @DiasDave Are there many writing positions for kid shows? #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:44 am sdarancette @Jamie_LD @sdarancette American writers have it tough for selling
pitches or writing on a regular Canadian series.... #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:45 am GrayJones And do you have full time staffs? Or mostly freelancers? What
percentage of each? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:45 am DiasDave There are a lot of kids shows being produced. Every network seems
to have a kid block of some kind that needs programs. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:45 am mr_kiyongkim @sdarancette i know gotham specializes in animation. are there other
agencies or management companies that are known for that? #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:45 am GCGeek @sdarancette This may be a silly question, but is any graphic art
(drawing) skill required to be a good animation writer? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:45 am DiasDave @sdarancette @Jamie_LD Steven and I were talking about Can.
series often needing Canadian writers only for tax credit reasons. #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:46 am DiasDave @GCGeek @sdarancette Good art can help a non-writer sell an
animated series pitch to a production company. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:46 am SarahAlexis4 @DiasDave Do the animated kid shows all follow the same
format/structure or their own? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:46 am delaynamichelle @GCGeek @sdarancette I hope not! I'll never be able to write for
American Dad! Pretty sure that's what the animators are for. #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:47 am DiasDave @mr_kiyongkim @sdarancette Gotham seems to be unique in its
focus on kids show artists. most lit agencies will rep animation. #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:47 am sdarancette @mr_kiyongkim Gotham biggest. Montiero Rose agency. Media
Artists. Natural Talent, maybe. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:47 am GCGeek @delaynamichelle Lucky I can at least spel! #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:48 am DiasDave @SarahAlexis4 @DiasDave Every show has its own structure.
Preschool shows often have the most demanding ones. Eg. Max
&Ruby. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:48 am delaynamichelle @GCGeek And you don't even need that really since the writers'
assistants go over it for mistakes! Win! #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:48 am GrayJones Do you need an agent to approach an existing show? Or just writing
samples? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:49 am sdarancette @GrayJones You don't need an agent if you can get through to the
story editor/producer but that's changing #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:49 am GrayJones And how much kids animation do you watch for research? #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:49 am DiasDave @delaynamichelle @GCGeek Most animated series I've worked on
don't have the budget for assistants! Just overall co-ordinators. #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:50 am GreyGaia @delaynamichelle @GCGeek @sdarancette Luckily the writers don't
have to animate. They wouldn't want me as an animator. #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:50 am DiasDave @GrayJones Lots. Every channel has one. The hard part is to watch
preschool cartoons if you don't have kids. But you have to. #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:50 am sdarancette @DiasDave @delaynamichelle @GCGeek Yup, I worked as
assistant/coordinator. I assisted several people. Wasnt a writers
assist. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:51 am GrayJones @DiasDave wow! Easier for parents, though ;-) #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:51 am DiasDave I do have a kid -- I just mean aspiring writers, even without kids,
should really watch all genres of animation. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:51 am delaynamichelle @DiasDave @GCGeek I work on American Dad as a PA. There's 2
of us, an exec. asst, and 2 writers' assistants. I got a ways 2 go #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:51 am mr_kiyongkim what animated shows do you guys like that are on right now? #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:52 am sdarancette Just a warning to followers who think I am a motormouth today on
twitter. I am doing TVwriterchat! Please don't unfollow! ;) #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:52 am DiasDave @mr_kiyongkim RedaKai, a boys action adventure on Cartoon
Network. Season 5 (!) of Max & Ruby. Cat in the Hat on PBS. #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:53 am GCGeek @delaynamichelle @DiasDave @sdarancette Is it fair to say
American Dad/Fam Guy are budgeted, even written more like a
sit-com? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:53 am sdarancette @mr_kiyongkim ADVENTURE TIME, YOUNG JUSTICE, SOUTH
PARK, FUTURAMA, sometimes SIMPSONS & FAM GUY #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:53 am ScriptScribbler Whatever @sdarancette ;)n #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:54 am DiasDave Yes, I should state to people following me too that I'm doing TV
writerchat, so don't be too annoyed with me. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:55 am GCGeek @delaynamichelle And you're further along than I! Very proud of you,
Delayna! Moved to LA from Carolina a few months ago!! #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:55 am DiasDave @GCGeek @delaynamichelle @DiasDave @sdarancette Those are
prime time juggernauts compared to most kids cartoons. #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:55 am sdarancette I have no kids of my own, I AM MY OWN kid ;) so I try to watch a
sampling of everything, pre-school, tween, action, etc #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:55 am mr_kiyongkim @sdarancette @DiasDave have you guys tried pitching your own
shows? any tips to share? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:55 am GrayJones @DiasDave can you talk about coming up with an animation series
idea, whether you write pilot, how you pitch it, etc? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:56 am Jamie_LD @delaynamichelle You changed your twitter name. No wonder I never
see you anymore. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:56 am sdarancette @GrayJones Just try to come up with an original idea first and really
don't try to follow trends, they are MOVING targets... #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:56 am DiasDave I've only just started pitching my own series ideas. Getting out to meet
production company execs is key. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:57 am delaynamichelle @Jamie_LD I know, everyone's confused. :( But I'm too happy to be
derisive. :) #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:57 am Jamie_LD @delaynamichelle So proud of you for taking the leap. Thanks for
joining us for the animation chat #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:57 am DiasDave Pitching a show often comes down to the fact that you're pitching
yourself as much as anything. Establishing relationships. #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:57 am GrayJones I guess I'm going to have to have @DiasDave on the TV Writer
Podcast sometime soon? ;-) #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:58 am sdarancette @GrayJones If you can draw, fantastic! Use that advantage to bring
your pitch alive with a bit of art... #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:58 am TVWriterChat YES! RT @GrayJones: I guess I'm going to have to have @DiasDave
on the TV Writer Podcast sometime soon? ;-) #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:58 am delaynamichelle @Jamie_LD Thanks! :) I figured since I work for an animated show,
maybe I could learn some things I don't know yet! #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:58 am DiasDave @GrayJones @DiasDave I talk a lot and fast!;) #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:58 am sdarancette @GrayJones if you can't, focus on the CHARACTER... then the
concept. Often studios are looking for a vague marketing angle... #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:58 am Jamie_LD @delaynamichelle Do you get to read the scripts? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:58 am DiasDave @delaynamichelle @Jamie_LD What show do you work on? #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:59 am delaynamichelle @Jamie_LD All the time! And I steal from Family Guy when I can. #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:59 am Jamie_LD Red wine, penne pasta, and #tvwriterchat Does it get any better?
2011-08-15 1:59 am SarahAlexis4 @DiasDave @sdarancette Any pointers to really make the writing of
an animated show strong/stand-out? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:59 am delaynamichelle @DiasDave @Jamie_LD American Dad! #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:59 am sdarancette @GrayJones Characters sell toys, they also help drive your stories,
so that one cynical part of the process not so bad #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 1:59 am DiasDave Crucial to a cartoon series pitch these days -- online presence. Not
just a website, but how it's a total immersive property. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:00 am GrayJones @sdarancette -- great topic to breach -- what role does marketing /
possible kids toys play? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:00 am ScriptScribbler @Jamie_LD not much :) I'm totally trolling tonite :)n #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:00 am Jamie_LD @DiasDave Is there an age group that's the best fit for animation?
Seems the teens can't get enough. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:00 am DiasDave @delaynamichelle @DiasDave @Jamie_LD You're working on a 'real'
cartoon! ;) Its writing is a sitcom room really. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:00 am christydena RT @DiasDave: Crucial to a cartoon series pitch these days -- online
presence. Not just a website, but how it's a total immersive property. #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:00 am mr_kiyongkim @DiasDave interesting. can you give an example for a show w/ a
strong online presence? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:01 am Jamie_LD @ScriptScribbler So glad to see you here. This is making me
interested in animation writing. Never even considered. #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:01 am DiasDave @Jamie_LD @DiasDave Tween shows are big in live action, but only
starting to break out in cartoons, in my estimation. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:01 am sdarancette @SarahAlexis4 Vivid, yet clear action. Doesn't mean longer and more
detailed. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:02 am delaynamichelle @DiasDave Ha! I love it. I love the show, I love the writers, I love that
I get to be around Fam. Guy too. It's awesome. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:02 am GCGeek Me too! RT @Jamie_LD: @ScriptScribbler So glad to see you here.
This is making me interested in animation writing. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:02 am DiasDave @mr_kiyongkim @DiasDave Good questoin re: online presence
series. Haven't seen many but networks want 'em! Can. ones anyway.
#tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:03 am GrayJones How's the money (and where's the money) in animation writing? #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:03 am DiasDave @DiasDave @mr_kiyongkim For kids shows, they want stuff that will
occupy kids more than just show clips or screensaver d-loads #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:03 am ScriptScribbler @Jamie_LD Iove cartoons... always wanted to write things like Static
Shock, Teen Titans, Young Justice.. tough market to break #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:04 am sdarancette @GrayJones Yeah, when pitching a show you need to keep
marketing in mind, but not at the top. Leave it to marketing. But... #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:04 am DiasDave @GrayJones Money is touchy. Animation isn't covered by WGA, and
barely by WGC. No script fee minimums. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:05 am sdarancette @GrayJones but... give them something. Create characters and
scenarios that could be a toy. It doesn't have to be a sacrifice. #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:05 am authorViviAnna learning lots about animation writing with @DiasDave and
@sdarancette #TVwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:05 am sdarancette @DiasDave Right. 99% of the time a script fee for an episode of a
cartoon is not negotiable. It is what it is. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:06 am DiasDave @sdarancette @GrayJones Sadly, art is usually a requirement with
pitches. Many execs don't know to use their imaginations. #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:06 am DiasDave @DiasDave @sdarancette @GrayJones Art with series pitching, I
mean. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:06 am GrayJones So is it a good idea to hire an artist for a pitch if you can't draw
yourself? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:07 am sdarancette @DiasDave @sdarancette @GrayJones I've gone with art and
without art. Sometimes execs have their own art in mind #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:07 am GCGeek @DiasDave @sdarancette I hadn't considered web interactivity but w/
multimedia/multistreaming kids today it makes total sense! #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:08 am sdarancette @GrayJones If you want to create a pitch at a presentation level and
can get an artist to help (free hopefully) then do so... #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:08 am mr_kiyongkim @GrayJones the guy who made spongebob was an artist and he
hired someone else to do better art for his pitch. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:08 am DiasDave @GrayJones Hiring an artist is a great idea. Make them equal
co-creator and they'll often work on spec like you are writing it #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:08 am GrayJones Wow! RT @mr_kiyongkim: the guy who made spongebob was an
artist and he hired someone else to do better art for his pitch. #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:08 am sdarancette @mr_kiyongkim @GrayJones yeah the SPONGEBOB story seems
like the exception, he even brought in music and a fishtank #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:09 am sdarancette @mr_kiyongkim @GrayJones So goes the legend of the Spongebob
Pitch - a new cartoon coming soon! In 3D! n #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:09 am GrayJones Loving this talk about animation writing! @DiasDave and
@sdarancette giving great tips. 20 minutes left! #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:09 am DiasDave For art, its GOOD art or NO art. Bad art kills the best series pitches. #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:10 am yskaya :) RT @GrayJones: Loving this talk about animation writing!
@DiasDave and @sdarancette giving great tips. 20 minutes left! #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:10 am Jamie_LD @mr_kiyongkim I had no idea you were interested in writing for
animation show. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:11 am sdarancette @yskaya @GrayJones @DiasDave #:) So far so good! #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:11 am GrayJones What are the biggest ups and the biggest lows about animation
writing as a career? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:11 am DiasDave 11 minute comedy cartoons are good specs to write. Comedy covers
many genres, and scripts are only 14-17 pgs. Low commitment! #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:11 am GCGeek Q: I'm seeing more and more live-action web series'. With software
available today, is that a viable avenue for animation? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:11 am DiasDave I can't remember some of the earlier questions now! ;) #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:12 am mr_kiyongkim @Jamie_LD really? but i'm at nick! i like comedy, whether animated
or live action. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:12 am malber @mr_kiyongkim @GrayJones when we sold anim pitches to MTV &
spike, we paired with a smaller animation company to do the art #
Tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:12 am GrayJones Cool! RT @malber: when we sold anim pitches to MTV & spike, we
paired with a smaller animation company to do the art #Tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:13 am DiasDave @GCGeek re: web animation. YES! Online web series/shorts are
prime option targets for companies wanting built-in recognition. #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:13 am Jamie_LD @mr_kiyongkim So true I forgot about Nick being animation. Though
with the website it's hard to imagine I forgot. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:13 am mr_kiyongkim @malber was it flat art samples or did you actually animate? #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:13 am sdarancette @malber Hey! Just looked you up! I heard about DEATH VALLEY!
Sounds cool. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:14 am Jamie_LD @malber How's L.A. treating you? We'll have to do an all out blitz for
DEATH VALLEY #Tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:14 am GrayJones For teen animation, could you see doing a spec graphic novel as
being a benefit to a series pitch? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:14 am jeannevb He started as an artist! RT @Jamie_LD: @mr_kiyongkim I had no
idea you were interested in writing for animation show. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:15 am malber @mr_kiyongkim We had character drawings and a few cells of the
show, but no animation since those take longer to do #Tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:15 am Jamie_LD @malber Sort of like a story board? #Tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:15 am DiasDave @GrayJones Re: spec graphic novel. If it's already done, sure.
Wouldn't go through the trouble otherwise for a new pitch. #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:16 am jeannevb psst #tvwriterchat @mr_kiyongkim did a guest post on @johnaugust
site this week http://t.co/CwVsxIw #animationdreamsinthere
2011-08-15 2:16 am sdarancette @GrayJones I would say do a spec novel if you really think it would
help. It's not something I've come across in my travels. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:16 am malber @Jamie_LD yeah, death valley is coming out august 29th! Everyone
watch whether you like it or not! #Tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:16 am mr_kiyongkim @sdarancette @DiasDave how many writers are usually on a show?
#tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:16 am DiasDave @malber @mr_kiyongkim re: no animation -- like a 'theme reel'? A
video with designs but very minimal animation? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:16 am Jamie_LD Watch it!!! RT @malber: @Jamie_LD yeah, death valley is coming out
august 29th! Everyone watch whether you like it or not! #
Tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:17 am DiasDave RT @mr_kiyongkim: @sdarancette @DiasDave how many writers are
usually on a show? Few. Often 1 head writer, some freelancers. #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:17 am GrayJones Have you ever had to adapt an existing property to an animation
show? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:18 am GCGeek Looks AWESOME! RT @malber: @Jamie_LD yeah, death valley is
coming out august 29th! Everyone watch whether you like it or not! #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:18 am sdarancette @mr_kiyongkim Most animation is freelance, so there is no staff
headcount, but my experience, anywhere to 3-9 tops. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:18 am DiasDave @GrayJones Most preschool shows are now based on books, or
other properties. One was based on a brand of kids hand soap! #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:19 am malber @DiasDave Just a few stills 2 show background/characters
interacting. We actually had them draw scenes we included n the
pitch #Tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:19 am GrayJones LOL! RT @DiasDave: Most preschool shows are now based on
books, or other properties. 1 was based on a brand of kids hand soap!
#tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:20 am TVWriterChat Next week Actor Melanie Nicholls-King actress from Rookie Blue,
writing from actor's perspective imdb http://t.co/Q4pHOhQ #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:20 am GrayJones 10 minutes left! #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:20 am mr_kiyongkim @DiasDave oh good! because i have some good ideas for soap. #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:20 am sdarancette @GrayJones I wrote on OZZY & DRIX which was based on the
OSMOSIS JONES films. Was considered for writing on a THUNDER
CATS #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:20 am SusannaSpeier Can't wait! RT @malber @Jamie_LD yeah, death valley is coming out
august 29th! Everyone watch whether you like it or not! #
Tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:20 am sdarancette Film. OSMOSIS JONES FILM, they only made the one #:p #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:20 am DiasDave Adult cartoon ideas are way harder to sell. Less networks interested
in airing them, and they have more competition. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:21 am malber @mr_kiyongkim lol! #Tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:21 am malber True! RT @DiasDave: Adult cartoon ideas are way harder to sell.
Less networks interested in airing them #Tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:21 am DiasDave I took a meeting about a development project where they wanted a
writer to conceptualize a whole show from one drawing. #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:21 am sdarancette @DiasDave Yeah, I have quite a few adult swim type ideas, most
likely will never sell them, but really enjoyed creating 'em! #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:22 am mr_kiyongkim @DiasDave i'd love to see more shows like archer. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:22 am DiasDave @sdarancette @DiasDave RE: adult swim. I know! We all have
twenty adult cartoons in us dying to get made! #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:22 am GrayJones With your experience now, would you consider writing an animated
feature? Or do you have non-animated ideas in the works? #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:23 am DiasDave @mr_kiyongkim @DiasDave We need more shows like Archer.
Futurama's always been my favorite. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:23 am Jamie_LD @mr_kiyongkim Sorry to say, but Archer gives me the creeps. lol #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:23 am sdarancette I would most likely write a live-action feature over an animated feature
spec. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:23 am malber @mr_kiyongkim archer is the best animated show! I don't love the
style, but the writing is hilarious. #Tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:23 am DiasDave @GrayJones re: animated feature. Absolutely! Many companies
making them now. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:24 am DiasDave @Jamie_LD @mr_kiyongkim The beauty of adult cartoons is they
cover the gamut from tame to sickening. We need that range! #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:24 am sdarancette Feature animation, it's a whole other CGI kettle of fish! Hard to sell
them. and Pixar has all the ideas they need!n #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:25 am mr_kiyongkim @Jamie_LD @malber yeah they push boundaries on archer, and i
don't think that show would work at all as live action. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:25 am malber @DiasDave @mr_kiyongkim yeah, futurama is amazing. #
Tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:25 am GrayJones 5 minutes left! Don't forget to follow @sdarancette and @DiasDave
on Twitter for more of their wisdom! #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:25 am DiasDave @sdarancette Smaller companies are more willing to make them.
Straight to DVD or other ancillary markets. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:25 am GreyGaia Q: I'm not sure if this was already asked but what is the turnaround
time from writing a children's animated show to airing? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:26 am sdarancette I know a lot of artists don't like ARCHER's animation style but
everyone seems to like the show & it's writing. So do I. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:26 am GCGeek Q: If one is successful with scripting animation (write for a
show/cartoon), can it parlay to live action work? #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:26 am sdarancette @GreyGaia Months! as many as nine, like having a baby, except the
baby only lasts 22.5 minutes! #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:26 am DiasDave @GreyGaia Re: turnaround time. As little as 6 mnths, but usually 9 to
a year or more. Broadcaster backlog might make it longer #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:27 am DiasDave @GCGeek Re; parlaying into live action work -- sadly, hardly ever.
Maybe if the spec is for an adult cartoon. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:28 am DiasDave This has been great! #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:28 am GrayJones Before we wrap up, reminder this is last week of contest, plus Dan
Goor is an interview not to be missed! http://t.co/Y15VnPp #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:28 am sdarancette That was fast!n #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:29 am GrayJones Huge thanks to @sdarancette and @DiasDave for an incredible
informative chat! #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:29 am mr_kiyongkim thanks @sdarancette @DiasDave for all the great info! #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:29 am sdarancette and for the record, it was ARCHER's animation style but everyone
seems to like the show & ITS writing - #englishfail #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:29 am DiasDave Let's do this again sometime. Animation is under-covered in terms of
writing. It's a big area of work. WGC = 19% #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:29 am GCGeek Still sounds very rewarding, and offers some unique challenges.
Thanks @DiasDave, @sdarancette & @GrayJones for a great chat! #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:30 am DiasDave @GrayJones @sdarancette @DiasDave Thanks for having me on. #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:30 am GrayJones @DiasDave absolutely! And a full podcast interview would help too.
Anytime you're ready! #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:30 am sdarancette Thanks everyone! It was great! So many good questions!n #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:30 am SarahAlexis4 @DiasDave @sdarancette Thank you for chatting with us! #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:31 am DiasDave Thanks everyone. Until next time! To animation, and beyond! (my 2
1/2 year old is into the Toy Story movies right now)... #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:31 am malber @DiasDave @sdarancette Thanks for the tips, guys! Really
appreciate your insights. #Tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:31 am yskaya thank you all for q and a :) RT @GrayJones: Huge thanks to
@sdarancette and @DiasDave for an incredible informative chat! #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:31 am DiasDave @GrayJones @DiasDave re: podcast. You're on! #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:32 am sdarancette Have a good night twitterverse and remember write till it hurts! #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:32 am Jamie_LD nxt week Actor Melanie Nicholls-King actress from Rookie Blue,
writing from actor's perspective imdb http://t.co/h0OW7om #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:33 am scriptchat RT @Jamie_LD: nxt week Actor Melanie Nicholls-King actress from
Rookie Blue, writing from actor's perspective imdb
http://t.co/h0OW7om #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:33 am GrayJones Thanks everyone! Gotta sign off now for a long distance call. Ciao! #
tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:33 am TVWriterChat @sdarancette @DiasDave Thanks so much for taking the time to
chat with us. #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:34 am GrayJones Great, thanks! “@DiasDave: re: podcast. You're on! #tvwriterchat”
2011-08-15 2:34 am GinyMacGregor RT @Jamie_LD: nxt week Actor Melanie Nicholls-King actress from
Rookie Blue, writing from actor's perspective imdb
http://t.co/h0OW7om #tvwriterchat
2011-08-15 2:35 am ScriptScribbler RT @TVWriterChat: @sdarancette @DiasDave Thanks so much for
taking the time to chat with us. #tvwriterchat
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